In the Uk mixed marriages are on the rise amonst Indians because the younsters do not like the caste system being imposed on them. 8, S: 271-271). Ravi Kumar Prajapati. You guys arent related to us and dont give me some bullshit you are. Be proud in spite but why have castes at all. Kash does not know nor understand the reasons why reservation was enshrined in the Indian constitution, by the Father and Chief Architect of the Indian constitution, Dr BR Ambedkar, the most and best educated person in India at the time, approved by Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi and Jawhar Lal Nehru amongst others and finally by the Indian Parliament in 1952. [17] The association discriminated against lower-status Chamars, such as the "Guliyas", who did not claim Kshatriya status. Chavar vansh k logo ko garv hona chahiye ki unhone kisi ka sosan atyachar nhi kiya . I agree with you 100%! Thanks. Hello, i am very glad to see this site. Plus the context in which the list was made is trying to convey the meaning that these exclusively Chamar names..which they are not. I have full report of abuse and harrasment. Please educate yourself before asking people to get their facts right. Change), You are commenting using your Twitter account. so admin i just wanted to knw that how could it b possible??? Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan Khuttan please add. No one can claim a surname, yes if you have same or similar surnames does not mean your stealing off one another. [13], Between the 1830s and the 1950s, the Chamars in the United Provinces, especially in the Kanpur area, became prosperous as a result of their involvement in the British leather trade. These rivers were JHELUM, SATLUJ, GANGES, NARMADA, GODAVRI , KRISHNA-KAUVERI and BRAHAM PUTRA. Please tell me which category do Samplays belong to..?? 2. Ithas likhegen ham aisa fir na doraha jayega, Jo hamse aankh milayega jinda dafnaya jayega. Where did you get your education, or may be you cant DIGEST THE VERY FACT that the people whom you guys suppressed are now rising! Or call me at 9888881308 its urgent need 2me. I believe the forward castes who are only 15% of the population should only get proportionate share of power and representation in all public positions. Our ancesters used to skin an animal in less than fifteen minutes and now their decedents -US- inherited the skill and capable of skinning nasty people like you within fifteen seconds. If you have evidence of being chamar surname / history please reply back to me with your reasons why. Click the button above to donate. It really shouldnt matter what caste you belong too. Even Ramayan was written by valmiki who belong to fisher family. Plz add in list. Surnames are castles of caste prejudice. Jay Guru Ravidas ji Maharaj , Kisi aise area me jaio jhan koi chmar hi na ho fir pta chlega, bro I am feel proud I am a chamar and I am saying chamar are honest people and powerful person In tha world I am to much proud feel I am a chamar and Pls I Read and understand I am not writing prefect english. Garhshanker, Satinder Singh Janagal The Gurus came to destroy the ugly caste system and install in its place a casteless society where all are equal, free and treat each others like brothers the Khalsa. 10 Rows 20 Rows 50 Rows 100 Rows 250 Rows 300 Rows. N EX MINISTER IN GOVT OF INDIA TRYING SINCE LAST 35 YEARS TO HAVE FATHER NAME BUT THE BRAHMIN ENJOYED HIGH POSITIONS MLA / M P / MINISTER /REAPETEDLY CM / GOVERNOR AND HIS BRAHMIN COMMUNITY WHISHING HIM PM /PRESIDENTSHIP OF INDIA COWARD HAS NOT COME FARWARD TO GIVE HIM BIOLOGICAL FATHER NAME DESPITE DNA TEST REPORT . Adsul. Jai Guru Ravidas Ji. I would love to see more chamar songs in the mainstream media because all you see is jatt this and jatt that. you are wrong. The Chamars are as Indian citizens as you are. Thanks jai guru ravidass ji maharaj, rall,jhamat,jakhu,ladhar and chawla,loi,kalsi also in chamar community, i believe no one beats jats and they r the best, lol HOW TOLRATE SUCH BAMANISM DOES TAKE ANY RESPONSIBILITY EXCEPT ENJOYMENT REMAING IDLE N SUCKING BLO OD OF THE SOCIETY Instead, one should use a second name that of a flower or his or her fathers or mothers name as his or her second name as has been done by Nobel laureate Kailash Satyarthi. This jat animal is full of rubbish and he is rubbish, even his name starts with the word kurra akin to kurrah ie rubbish. treated them like brothers and sisters. PLEASE HELP, My gotra kulhadiya my name Tinku kumar kulhadiya jaadav, My surname is jhalli.iam belonging to chamar community, Hame biswash Nahi hoto ki divya Its homes or broken homes they were born into, Sad but true. i want to know onething from you that is divya bharti (late bollywood actress ) & sonu nigam ( singer ) also belong to chamar caste ? 2. There are a lot of Majra or a Majara villages in Punjab named after agricultural workers .It was only after Baba Banda Singh Bahadur who destroyed Sirhind that land titles were given to the tillers . Yeah Exactly Bro And Now We have changed the way as wellNow If someone ask me who are you I Say CHAMAR hu bhai .Its makes me feel proud and also make their mouth shutSo This is the best way to end the Castism if you cant remove it so just make your caste as stronger that other will remove it selfly, punia in haryana belog to chamar caste as p.l.punia (i.a.s. I do not harbour toxic sentiment, i was simply providing the lady with the context and background as to why caste is an important topic for our community. If Bhagat Ravidas Ji was here today he would be angry upset that people have made a religion on his name. In SC n higher caste also. Dont swear makes your look stupid. hello. All this information is not authentic, one gotra runs in my castes. just read about him . Rathi surname kis caste me ate haiplease reply soon.. i am from nepal . was created . Punjab National Bank, [32] The Regiment, with one year of service, received three Military Crosses and three Military Medals[33] It fought in the Battle of Kohima. Im research student from Japan. India government say everyone is Hindu regardless if your a Sikh, Buddhist or Jainism. I can honestly say there is nothing more beautiful than Sikhi in its purest form. Otherwise Ervery person who was working as Helper (dresser, barber, Washer, maids, servants, Horse care takers, Carpenters, peons, makeup helpers, tailors etc) they were just called Shudras which simply means service or help providers. Why are people highlighting proudness of a Vedic system which suppresses them as people. born dis way, Tum khali reservation lekar select ho jao.caste certificate main banwa dunga..hai dum. REMOVE THE BHARDWAJ LAST NAME FROM THIS LIST NOW!!! being chamar i am saying this truth . No such thing again. Anybody can use any title but that doesnot mean anything. pls add Sabharwal, Sirohi, hadda.also note i never ever hear that bhardwajs are chamar.so i oppose..i am proud to be chamar and love my country the best.. I love ths comunity. It is also the 1,083,225 th most frequently used given name at a global level. Fact is a fact and truth is truth. Religious practices and taboos differ from region to region and caste to caste. why sandhu are treated bad everwhere . none is superior or inferior but deeds make so.in last of dwaperyuga biyas son on of malahin satyavati resulted after rape by parasar grand son of vashisth purohit of dasrath who got 4 sons in old age on same day on blessings of sringi in last of tretayuga was 24th pidhi of harischandra of satyuga (around 500years back) had 4 sons dhritrasra never touched sword / dhanush was akshtriya , impotent pandu was akshtriya , vidur was sudra , sudev was brahmin whoose guru janak was akshtriya where as karan called sutputtra suryavanshi biological son of suryadev supported by the fact that thakur on the horse back passing through gives son to the woman working in field while his wife gets son from hajjam simultaneously. add samplay, gangar, narrewatt, Saniar, banga, as these are all confirmed. As The illuminated said above there are some organization which focus on eliminating caste discrimination in West Midland area. Manuvadiyo ne hamara sab kuch cheen liya aur hamara khub sosan kiya . [19][20], In the 1940s, the Indian National Congress promoted the Chamar politician Jagjivan Ram to counteract the influence of B.R. I am only Rajput not a chamar. yaha rakhsha bandhan k kuch din baad mela lagta hai if anyone know about this.. plz reply me full address of the place. 1. Thanks brother. may want to evaluate Samsung HIGHER DEFINITION TV models, 0081001500006681 Dalit were out caste and never assigned any caste traditionally so in 1947 ,under SC Act new caste Scheduled Caste ( Schedule / Notification of Govt.) All chamar are not the same. There is no such things as caste, we are all human beings. Jatts dont decide who is Singh or not. I am challenging you all, sikhism is non casteism panth either you follow that and leave your subcaste drama or leave sikhism and say you are chamar labana ramghariya khatri majhabi etc.. Frends this is 21 St century,but humanity comes first of all .kya ham sab ko 1 hi parmeshwar ne ni banaya , how can u treat abusively with other persons claiming them Chhota castes,neech log, while u just look like them .this is not right.it hurts feelings and self-respect of a person .we all do our works and feed our families.so dont talk over nonsence things.aadmi bada Naam se ni kaam se hota h. Be of others. it is your identity. I get more respect as a Khalsa then I would ever as a follower of Dera Ballan who are using pindu Chamars as pawns in their game. Daru Daru! Thakare. God can not give with his hand as we are the hands of God! Chamar/ jatav also use verma,kadam,kardam,nim,kashyap..etc. all this surname shit is bolloks, caste is bolloks all of u need 2 get over your selves and understand we are all human beings u bunch of egotistical nothings. brahminsm shall collapse .in hindu marrige act- 5 PIDHI PATENTAL 3 PIDHI MATERNAL SHOULD BE LEFT FOR MARRIGE TO TAKE PLACE . They itch to find out somebodys caste. Hi there!! 11 BIHAR 11021 CHAMAR CHOUDHARY 11 BIHAR 11022 CHAMAR KUSHWAHA 11 BIHAR 11023 CHAMAR PASWAN 11 BIHAR 11024 CHAMAR . manuwadi koi galt nhi he uska dhang se na samajhna hi galat soch he. Langar (community kitchen ) : Langar tradition in Sikhism had two purpose when it was started. We are all brothers and sisters regardless of caste, as Sikhs we do t believe that, its all man made bullshit ! i am from trinidad west indies,,,, it took me 59 years to find out tru countless pundits in this country about what caste i belong,,, only to realise now ,, that i am chamar,,, the pundit didnt disclose it,,, i went somewhere else to find out my surname is sookra,,, can you get any people there who share this name,,, so i can 100% verify my identity? untouchability? In the scheme of the caste system the shudras were the servants or slaves of the system.. All the leading great countries of the world that have progressed have had revolutions in their country by the the lower masses, eg Great Britain, France, Russia, China, America etc. You guys are saying disregard the caste system but the only reason you have these last names is cause your sorry ass people were ashamed of their caste and wanted to feel higher. I dont believe in caste but I try to love everyone. and im a chura chamar of dudley road Of three officers I mentioned above I have been to their homes and not noticed any thing unusual commensrate to their earnings. This shows that the person who had given above information is having no knowledge of castes. A relative was a lawyer 100 years agoone of the first in modern India.Married a lawyer again (Jat).their Jatness never changed and they never wanted it to.Jats can and are proud of their heritage but its nothing to do with anybody else.No apologies. R. K. Pruthi suggests this is in the hope that they might in future be considered as Julaha by other communities. Shegokar. [50] Balahi have major concentration in Ujjain, Khargone and Dewas districts. What more do you expect if you deny generation after generation the right to educate themselves? You have a problem in India where corruption has got worse due to the fact that for a very long time scheduled caste people were not allowed to Be in a position of power and since the laws changed and they were given senior positions in India corruption has trebled as a lot,of these people came from poor backgrounds and have taken advantage of this .There was always corruption in India but it is the worst it has ever been. ya i agree our people think so about our cast. i belong to ramdasia caste. It was formed to promote the interests of Jatav for seeking social upliftment into Kshatriya varna. Some people of chamar caste have surname RAVIDAS or RABIDAS. The Sikh Chamar are Hindus who converted to Sikhism under the teaching of the Ten Gurus who lived from 1469 to 1708. Reservation Percentage i Gujarat. So many Jutt surnames and even Rajput n Brahmin surname ? Dhusia is a caste in India, subcaste associated with Chamars, Kureel, Ahirwar, Jhusia or Jatav. So in a nut shell to you, reservation is wrong and only the jobs should be given on merit alone and thus corruption will be reduced by a threefold. 1 should b proud of being good human being. 4 Then there are those chamars who have no idea who they are but by default will probably call themselves as hindus even though they may bow unto the Guru Granth Sahib and conduct births, marraiges and deaths though the Granth Sahib. We are all One and that is all we need to understand this world. Ravidassias are promoting their own caste and casteism in general and also politics which I believe is wrong and opposite way to tackle things to our gurus. Unless of course she is lying and her jatt family did give her hard time which would make them the people that are letting the flame burn and the ones that need to get a fucking life .To answer your question, yes of course i would marry off my daughters/ sisters into other castes/ faiths. every is equal just remember you are human before you find yourself within caste system everything in this world is what God wants and God never choose a wrong path hes always in favour of our Good ..but our mind has not the power to understand that what so far happening is right. You, as a sikh, without any humility but with plenty of pride and arrogance, should be ashamed of yourself speaking in such foul manner. brahmin married sudra biash born . When Guru Nanak discovered the truth by accepting the sacha sauda gift(the Truth) as a blessing from the Bhagats, he wanted to proclaim this to the world.The brahmins had been telling the Indians of caste system as the truth created by God and even created fictional figures such as Krishna and Ram and others, to legitimise this lie.This lie was challenged many times before but more fiercely when Guru Nanak came along. Biggest problem with weaker sections is that instead of retaliating they start crying. i also belong to chamar . Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Remove this name from your last names list. Chandigarh aao mai dikhata hu brahmin bhi aaj jamaadaar ka kaam kar raha hai. Chamar - Traditional leather workers are called Chamar. Only jatts think like that which is why are despised by virtually all other sikhs from other castes. If he can understand what I am saying maybe he see some light of truth. People need to use their brains and come together as a human race and fight off evil in the world whatever race, religion, creed or ethnicity you are!!! I do like your literal analogy in your last sentence. It is the brahmins such as you who will go to hell for telling lies. Many of the Hindus who became Sikhs were from the Dalit caste. If u believe in it Then ur just stupid and dont know anything about this world. 5 Finally there are those who worship some hindu deity and will be call themselves as hindus. it will help all the chamar family of haryana to tell their caste to other with proud and other casts respects the chamar community. It is one of the common surnames among Indian Brahmins. the caste weakness of hindu gave budhism, jainism, christianity islam, shikhism . Dabgar: 3,638: 0.01% Dhangar,- written in Hindi as ; - a sub caste of . Wagh. Then truly we will have captured the powerhouse for our emancipation (Dr BR Ambedkar) and fulfilled the dream of Guru Ravidass esa chahon raj main. Chammaro u all are brother and sister of me. If Sh. However, when very low caste sikhs migrated to countries such as the US, Canada and the UK, they thought of it as a chance to start a clean slate where people would not be able to identify their caste. The dirty dogs were able to drink water from pools used by the higher castes but the dalit were denied access to these pools for fear of polluting the pools. Hindu Groups like Congress, RSS have been trying to break Sikhism into separate castes, and to demolish Sikhism. Isnt it better to change ourselves still staying in the guidance of our Bhagats, Gurus and GGSJ.. im jatt n do no respect chamars..but it is not true if we define ourself into caste rather than different races..in last 50yrs every sechuled caste n other backward caste start using our Jatt surnames..which we didnt know this day until facebook came..as more n more jats start getting educated ,we start knowing our history ,today most of jats know we have Scythian blood lineage n this already been proving in DNA testing..all DNA testing done on Jats hve found 98% of Jat males have highest no of Cascusinan n North east european blood which not find among any other castes of india.. we r not mention in any vedic history bcz we not living from time of vedic culture..Jats,Kamboj n Gujjars were last migrants on the land of indian sub contienent in region of North Sind n nosouth punjab ,who we r living only last 2500yrs..there was no chamars before birth of Guru Nanak in punjab ,wen Guru Nanak went to East india he brought 500 Chamar families with in him ,if u read Udasi of Guru Nanak u found clearly written in that.later 50000 slaves who were Chamars were brought into Punjab by british wen hunger n starvation hit india in 1870-90 n 30millon er castes hindu died that time..now Jats surnames r 1000s yrs older than migration of chamars into punjab.like Sandhu Jatt surname is 1200yrs old so how can u people b one of us..u have austrico dravidian negriod blood we have Scythians ,our DNA r different than to yours ,u look different than to us by facial features,how can we r same..all brahmans r not Aryans ,50% Brahmans have dravidian blood.even Dr Ambedkar wrote Brahmans of Punjab have same blood as Chamars of Punjab.. this is really big issue which gonna burn down north west india into fire, we Jats r planning n wondering wat we have to do to stop u people by using our surnames.u will gonna see in next 10-15yrs it will b big issue.. are jatt kyu sade pde ho tum khattar sarkaar jindabaad jato ki fati padi hai kyu chamaro pe jor nikal reho apna. in fact none is superior or inferior by birth but deeds make him so . As a Sikh this is all useless to me but Im sure as Hindu which I believe you are, there is nothing wrong you believing in surname and caste.