From my experience, most fundy kids figure this out a few years later than everyone else and finally start making decisions for themselves. So whats wrong with what they are doing. but those who curtail their rights are guilty of stupidities. This was in Roger Rosenblatt in his essay We are Free to Be You, Me, Stupid and Dead. In the most recent statistical year 5,223 prospective students applied, and 3,251 were granted admission . As a former student from 2010-2012, I can attest that convocation wasnt required, students could hang out in mixed groups on and off campus, and public signs of affection are commonplace, and Im not talking about hand-holding. Unfortunately, 1 Corinthians 8 is the famous and ever-taken-out-of-context passage used by Christians to justify substituting their convictions for Biblical truths. You willingly agree to their rules when you come here and they arent a secret. McKendree. Yay secularism! It really sucks that you went to such an awful college. The veritably Orwellian Florida Christian College combs through its students media collections, banning any books, movies, music, magazines, or video games it deems detrimental to Christianity. Not sure why you find prohibition of Occult practices to be a bad thing for those attending a Christian university. Because some might say that the strict rules only serve to lead people away. By the time we were ready to graduate and go to college, that important decision, like most others, had either already been made for us or pushed so strongly onto us that we felt there were no other options. This was not a good recipe for being a successful artist. Going far beyond the usual, generally accepted standards of not breaking the law, acting in a disruptive or discourteous manner, and remaining honest in word, deed, and homework, they raise a number of fascinating moral and ethical questions regarding personal freedom. D.A. Evansville, IN Deaconess Sports Park. Theyre not going to hunt you down or anything. DO you know what these strict colleges are invoking by making these kinds of religious standards? YouTube. Just food for thought. Students are also prohibited from recreational drug use, misusing legally prescribed medications, or using synthetic street drugs or medical marijuana. Welcome to a place where Gods very attributes are slandered and blasphemed. I attended Liberty from 99-01 and it was great. these are adults who may have attended high schools where,they like myself,was paddled for minor mistakes. Any interaction with alcohol, innocent or not, may result in dismissal. So next time you see a bud light in a gas stationrun for your life. In addition to outright banning the expected illegal and discourteous behaviors, premarital sex and homosexuality are considered as absolute in their alleged offense to God and society as stealing and lying. Or would he rather you come to him of your own free will and respect him because you want to not because you have to. You are so used to being controlled that its normal or just easier to do what your are told. Any movies to be shown on campus must receive approval from Asbury College faculty and staff if it involves a rating of PG or PG-13, with all Rs and NC-17s banned except in extreme circumstances (Passion of the Christ, by the way, was considered violent and intense enough to warrant an R by the MPAA). But let me clear up a few things as I attend college there myself. Thats what you have to do in order to survive there. Cedarville goes far beyond regulations mandated in the DFSC Act by attempting to regulate the daily lives of their students whether on or off campus. -Drinking, also duh, they just actually monitor it here. NOTE: This is not a comprehensive argument for changing the alcohol policy at Cedarville and more articles will likely be posted in relation to this subject to review Biblical principles in depth. everybody who reads this will be without excuse when they get o the Great White Throne judgment before God. The decision to use alcohol and tobacco kills nearly 500,000 Americans a year, the porn industry destroys millions, and how many die from abortion. Either way, check your facts before you publish. (see Joshua 24:15, Jude 1:4, Romans 16:17). It is a small institution with an enrollment of 3,540 undergraduate students. AND, IF I had not experienced Gods love, Why doesnt she try to show me instead of disipline me when I did nothing wrong!!!!!! Carson engages in an enlightening discourse on the disputable matters Cedarville references in the student handbook. If they have agreed to attend the college, then they have agreed to live by the rules laid out by the college for the duration of their time there. You already know, lots of persons are looking around for this information, you can aid them greatly. Premarital sex is wrong,the bible clearly states so amongst other things. http://www.pcci.edu/ degree, but never got it. It will introduce you to our Cedarville Covenant and Community Guidelines, and it will include advice that will help you maximize your success as a university student. I attended Asbury for four years, the handbook is terribly written, but the rules are not as strict as they are presented here. The best approach is to research the college yourself and make your decsision. Just so you guy who are whining about people not having freedom: These students CHOOSE to attend these colleges in full awareness of their rules. Bob Jones University requires all students to attend regular church, Sunday school, society, Bible conferences, artist series programs, and vespers services on campus, though not necessarily in a single week. I have a mission that I am just now working on, and Ive been at the glance out for such information.|. And obviously the floor leader used her positions power to sexually abuse you. And Another note. Furthermore, to your own point, most Cedarville students arent even at drinking age, so its not even that big of an issue. Well I attended Pennsacola and BJU and frankly PCC was much better. Who is she to judge!? Sports is taken seriously and we do very well in the Div One level.Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow etcthese are outstanding Christian athletes/men and went to secular schoolsyou dont have to be christian and goto to a christian college to stay christian.some students like the positive atmosphere and some just like the locationeveryone has their own preference. Since Asbury, I dont believe that she has read one new such book. Beards are completely banned without explicit permission from the school, and neither gender may color their hair or wear any form-fitting apparel. If you want information about these schools, do your homework by going straight to the source. Cedarvilles policy on alcohol is not founded in fact, policy, or Biblical principle. put a sock in it. The caller said the victim was on the ground bleeding . Seriously. She came from a wonderful Christian church in Atlanta with tremendous faith, knowledge, and ability. 14; 1 Cor. If a disciple of Christ becomes odious to others because of the radical measures that Christ calls us to, he will have followed the footsteps of his master; indeed, what else could be expected of him? I Attended LMU in Los Angeles we do to have strict rules about clothes we can wear pants So nyah nyah yah. 3:3; Titus 1:7; 1 Pet. On a related note, outright banning things often just makes them more appealing. Other than in the residence halls, shirts should be worn everywhere on campus, including the Callan Athletic Center. In other words, there is a difference between going out to drink with a friend who is an alcoholic and drinking in front of someone who is just offended by it. If you are a student at Cedarville, you know that the university resides in the historically dry town of Cedarville, OH. The school has a religious affiliation with the Baptist faith. So, to be clear: Students may not eat at a brewery, alehouse, or pub even if they are just going to eat food because they can be dismissed from the University. Also, Dami, Sodom and Gamorah was only said to be evil because they tried to A) rape two visitor (angels mind you) 2) they were gluttonous in their behavior 3) I am pretty darn sure that a gay man was NOT on the committee for writing the Bible 4) the bible also condemns women for having a period.. (I did study the Bible), strict rules can actually push one from God. Official MBA partner of The Economist. Both my wife and I are hurt! Proverbs 29:22 may be a helpful verse in this situation. If you tell your kids what smoking does to their lungs, they wont even *want* to smoke. Any and all work must not interfere with weekday prayer sessions, either. No, they do not allow engaging in it, and I honestly think thats not something good. The suspect in the deadly Michigan State campus shooting, who later died at a Lansing location, was a 43-year-old man, Michigan State University Interim Deputy Police Chief Chris Rozman said at a . He transferred to public school where he had no friends and even less support and encouragement from faculty/students, and two months later he shot himself. Its part of the colleges curriculum, just like a class, due to the college aiming for both academic AND spiritual growth. It is near 30,000 dollars a year, and Cedarville is not known for its great financial aid! Where did you hear that we couldnt?!?! BUT, if you are homosexual, they wont kick you off campus. As one of the top Christian colleges in the Midwest, Cedarville University attracts 5,082 undergraduate , graduate, and dual enrolled high school students to more than 175 areas of study. If you EVER want to be in a highly sexually-charged atmosphere, these are the places to be. Some rules are ridiculous. Cedarville does their best to preserve their image among students, and that is a precaution that I dont think is unreasonable. Students at these schools are missing out. Students are prohibited from posting or sharing sexually provocative material. And was to that if I wear modest clothing my tattoos should not be a problem. I wouldnt go to any of these colleges, but youre giving them more crap than you should. It is for our own health and safety that these rules are in place: rules which we WILLINGLY submit to. I graduated from ORU, great school! I can understand dancing in a lewd manner in clubs being prohibited (not really, actually I cant understand most of these being prohibited even when it comes to upholding an image of morality) but what about ballet? Cedarville University is intentional about creating a Christ-centered community, rigorous in our pursuit of scholarship, and balanced in our approach to Christian lifestyle. Students are notified of significant health risks associated with the improper use of certain substances, including those mentioned above. You heard about how bad these schools are from people who got kicked out? Tons of guys here have Call of Duty and Halo, Skyrim and Gears of War, heck, many have Mortal Kombat and Devil May Cry. Only God can do that. If a student is of legal drinking age and wishes to imbibe in the summer, it is none of Cedarvilles business and does not impact them in any way. Cedarville police were called to the Stevens Student Center Tuesday morning after a 911 caller reported that a male student had been stabbed. I go to Oral Roberts University. Students are expected to be honest and truthful in all forms of communication (verbal or written). Allowing dancing at any school-related function on or off campus is strictly prohibited, though students are allowed to bust a few chaste, pre-approved moves at weddings, military balls, graduation exercises, church, and family occasions provided they refrain from attending clubs, bars, or parties that allegedly lead to temptation no matter what. However was shocked at the unchristian like behavior these christains held. In addition, our campus culture supports the professional development of students and allows faculty to communicate additional dress guidelines for classes that are consistent with the course objectives. Cedarville University. The rule is not to Bible-thump students into submission and control. I got to Oral and they dont follow you around but they are strict, I have piercings and Ive been told to put clear retainers in during class and school events. (Aldair Zepeda/WWMT) "To those we lost to those healing," added were the names of the three killed in the shooting, Brian . LU is now one of the largest christian colleges in teh US, if not the largest. Im bruised by the experience yet my wife was forever changed. I went to Loyola Marymount in Los Angeles and the school is laid back we can have alcohol on campus go to dance clubs if we want to,so I say this GO FUCK yourself you religious nuts, I attended Loyola Marymount University in Los Angeles They dont have strict rules lie BJU which I think is a little extreme If I want to go to Dance Clubs or a bars I will Let them try to stop me because I will Tell to where to go and how to get there. Every college and university around the world expects its students to uphold certain standards. you people that are hatin on the Christian colleges are so corrupted by the devil that you think goin out drinkin, havin a good time, aborting babies, sex outside of marriage, and the overall stupidity that youre involved in is what really makes you happy. Im an army vet who went into humanitarian work when I left the army, honorably. If, however, you only ensure that they grow up in an environment where these are banned, this only serves to increase their allure should they ever break free from the strict and dogmatic rules that you place to limit their actions. We just simply believe the policy is archaic, not biblically based, and should be changed. Go figure. The men and women have their own elevators, must not be together in isolated areas, cannot swim together, even at the beach. (IF you live somewhere else then you should not know what most of these colleges are anyways because they are in the U.S) This country has set its standards and limitations and guess what the four founding fathers said my dear friends, Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.. Graduating 74% of students, Cedarville alumni go on to earn a starting salary of $35,200. While this article certainly peers into their doings from the perspective of an outsider, it admits that the real answers remain entirely subjective and highly nebulous. Theese rules are ridiculous, esp. To write that students are fully aware of the rules is a twist of the truth and reality. And its true men may not wear makeup. Yes, the limitations on personal freedoms were sometimes onerous, but the tradeoffs, IMO, make the typical American college experience pale in comparison. Camping trips with the opposite sex arent strictly forbidden; theyre just discouraged. You might want to take a closer look at everything that was going on at the time. Quite honestly, speaking as a Christian myself, attending a private Christian college is not always the best choice depending on your career path. Above all, we pray God would be honored by our deliberations and actions. I have yet to understand why people go out of their way to attack our schools when the rules do not affect them in any way whatsoever. Cedarville justifies their policy by referencing the Drug-free Schools and Communities Act, which requires universities to provide, Standards of conduct that clearly prohibit, at a minimum, the unlawful possession, use, or distribution of illicit drugs and alcohol on school property or as part of any school activities foremployees (Policy)orstudents (Code of Conduct) and a statement of disciplinary actions associated with those violations. Arrests, convictions, and firearms understandably lead to suspension or termination, but so can purchasing and consuming alcohol (even when of age), attending a bar or a club, involvement with a cult, Satanism, or witchcraft, or engaging in sexual activity. Asbury College/University. They do not prepare you for the real world unless you want to work at and be totally immersed in a strict, judgmental and very dogmatic church for your whole life. Students struggling with drug or alcohol use may obtain confidential support at Counseling Services and University Medical Services. America as a whole is definitely not a good indicator of Gods standards as displayed in the nature of his Son and set forth in his commands. I often hang out in large groups without a chaperon at like 2am. So teach us to number our days that we may get a heart of wisdom. All serious and dastardly crimes against the institution. She did meet some students who were unhappy with Asbury for various reasons, like any students at any college. But its greatly changed now. I have met people that go to PCC and they have all said only good things about it. Actuallythe standards for Brigham Young University are slightly off. Sexual abuse and incest are very understandably considered a violation due to their illegality and penchant for psychological damage, but legal activities like abortion, premarital and extramarital sex (even within the confines of an open marriage), and homosexuality are held up as just as appalling. I obtain an Associate degree of Theology, and have done subjects to obtain my bachelor Some are grounds for immediate expulsion, while others build up over time before a student can be dismissed. I believe the answer lies with how students (like me) were raised. He let people reach out and touch him because to touch him was to touch life and forgiveness, no matter their past or present. Access Gmail. But honestly, the teachers and student body are just as lenient about the rule as they are in K-12 schools. Cedarville University should be on this list its more strict than Liberty. "Each program at Cedarville University comes from a biblical world view. I cant believe you missed out on Bob Jones U finally lifting their ban on interracial dating JUST ten years ago. Students are expected to remove hats before entering class or chapel. Anyone caught in such a position faces discipline or dismissal. Possessing legal pornography, light to moderate drinking (even non-alcoholic versions of beer or cocktails), gambling, premarital or extramarital sex (regardless of whether or not the latter take place within an open relationship), dressing immodestly, supporting or practicing religious beliefs in line with the occult (with the lines of what constitutes such practices never explicitly stated), using profanity, tobacco, engaging in or supporting homosexuality, and having or supporting abortions are also very much in violation of the schools strict moral guidelines. We all wore makeup, etc. Therefore, students are encouraged to portray servant attitudes toward Christ and other people in their dress and appearance. That rule ONLY applies to publicly shown movies. They make you attend a formal dinner every night and make you dress up for dinner too. This is EXTREMELY uninformed. The articles goal is to make you think some of these colleges are creating robots and the students walk around with bibles in one arm and a notebook in the other. Information Technology. -Underage gambling is also against the law (and also gives into the sin of greed) Shorts, sweatpants, and pajama pants should not be worn to class or chapel. If the truth is found in the Bible, abide in it, and depart not from it. Adding onto my last post you must have been reading a 40 year old manual when you wrote this stuff about Asbury. One of my professors at UK went to my church (Southern Hills in Lexington), another of my UK professors dedicated his life to improve conditions for the poor in South America. And in your rush to condemn schools that ban stuff that the book theyre led by tells them is wrong and sinful, you left out the worse stuff. Remember no one is forcing anyone to go to this college those who attend are already in agreement with the administration the writer sound like the school is repressive it isnt if you choose to live a prurient life also the remark about legal pornography shows the the commentator has no idea of what is going on its not mans law they are concerned with, its, you know, His law. And if you have to miss which many do at one point or another you get 8 free chapel skips. According to the student handbook, "Nearly 70% of our undergraduates are under the legal drinking age. To offer a different perspective, I graduated from Asbury in the 90s, lived by the rules, and benefited from being part of a voluntary community that generally did the samenot out of fear or self-righteousness, but because of the high value they placed on faith and community. No one is being coerced into paying thousands of dollars to go if they dont want to. Your paragraph on Oral Roberts University is inaccurate. The school even governs how students are to go about their off-campus employment as well. I was on full scholarship (or would have never atteneded the school),and I was aware of all these policies and followed them. Im not a Christian and yet I do not have pictures pasted on the internet of myself drunk and naked I dont even use Facebook or alcohol. Required fields are marked *. I dont even go to church anywhere around campus. Nobody is perfect, no matter what school. They are private institutions and can set their own policies. Im thinking that the author of this either made up some bs to get people riled, or got his hands on a 40yr-old student manual. Just my humble, unbiased opinion; take it or leave it. Here are just four, from least to most problematic: Alcohol certainly should not be allowed in dorms as this can be highly damaging to the academic environment and abuse of alcohol that affects studies or endangers other students should result in disciplinary action. She had read many Christian books and had a wonderful library of these books. Maintenance Office. Here are two rules that are across the board on campus (that your RA will be giving you more detail about once you arrive on campus) . Any freshmen taking less than 24 hours of coursework must be in their dorm rooms by midnight on Monday through Wednesday and 12:30 AM on Friday through Sunday. this is what I think of those colleges They can go fuck a buffalo for all I care how dare they dictate your life. Major infractions largely accepted by mainstream society and allowed under American law include dating violation[s], owning potentially offensive media (which will get confiscated), swimming with the opposite sex, patronizing a movie theatre, attending a concert, receiving a tattoo or piercing, gambling, possessing pornography, or purchasing and using tobacco (even when of age). Now of course in the Bible he warns against sins, things that werent made by his own creation, but by the fall of mankind and free will. Stay up the great paintings! Yet, somehow, Cedarville still fostered open discourse. 3:34). They have separated beaches for the men and women. Whoever wrote this had the facts waaaay off about Liberty U. 2 min read. Your email address will not be published. Most of my serious infractions involved demerits for not emptying the trash, not having two feet on the floor at morning light bell, hair touching my eyebrows and humming along to my roommate playing Dust in the Wind on his guitar. But you cant get upset and blame teh school if you enroll and dont check out the requirements first..BYU is a great school.not a fan of mormonism, but the students that are there are great kids for the most part. I would like if you can wright me. D.A. Register for Classes (Students) - Student Planning. So quit whining about some article some guy wrote on the internet 3 years ago about the strict standards set forth by some colleges and start asking yourself- do these standards actually bring people closer to God or are they pushing us further away? Movies again, the handbook gave the wrong message. hahaha what a joke, and you call yourselves civilized. its not mans law they are concerned with, its, you know, His law.. I had to quit dressing slovenly and learned to dress well. Possessing legal pornography, light to moderate drinking (even non-alcoholic versions of beer or cocktails), gambling, premarital or extramarital sex (regardless of whether or not the latter take place within an open relationship), dressing immodestly, supporting or practicing religious beliefs in line with the occult (with the lines of what constitutes such practices never explicitly stated), using profanity, tobacco, engaging in or supporting homosexuality, and having or supporting abortions are also very much in violation of the schools strict moral guidelines.. Students hoping to visit any friends of the opposite sex must receive permission from their families and keep it on file with the school as well.. All of which are traditional dances and (in my opinion) in no way put the dancers morality and purity at risk.